How many TAs are on the road in the UK?

The October issue set out the ‘ground rules’ for this exercise. It went on to analyse the first 750 TA chassis numbers (excluding chassis numbers belonging to non-UK cars) which are, according to the MGCC ‘T’ Register’s database, listed as being in the UK. This issue analyses the next 1000 chassis numbers.

There were a few errors in the October listings, which are probably best dealt with straight away.

Chassis number 0358 appeared in two listings but should only have appeared in one. This has been corrected.

Chassis number 0889 was incorrectly shown as 0809 (typing error by the editor).

Chassis number 0264 was incorrectly shown as NOT known to DVLA. The reason for this is that the Registrar was not advised of the sale of this car to The Netherlands, so it was still included as a UK car.

Chassis number 0646 (ACX 350) needs to be added to the list – not previously known about, but is now, thanks to Roger Muir, editor of the Octagon Bulletin.

Regarding the ‘Untaxed’ and ‘Not taxed for road use’ categories, Mike Inglehearn came to my rescue and sent me the following explanation, which saved me the task of writing to DVLA:

“I have just had a quick look at the latest TTT2, I was told by DVLA that the difference between “Untaxed” and “Not taxed for road use” is that “Untaxed” is for cars that have been on the road since SORN came into force (31st January 1998) but (for whom) after the tax last expired it was not renewed or put on SORN.

“Not Taxed for road use” is for vehicles that are on the DVLA system, but (for whom) the tax expired before SORN was introduced, so are not taxed and are not required to have a SORN declaration. In other words, both are untaxed, but whereas NTFRU is ok, “Untaxed” vehicles should either be taxed or have a SORN declaration.”

As a follow on from the ‘Lost & Found’ feature and the comments of mine regarding the loss of  TF5400’s original registration number, this exercise has so far revealed the following:

TA0383 was originally registered DUB 45, but this is now on a 2017 Mercedes Benz.

Likewise, TA0969 (DLY 100) – now on a 2016 Land Rover.

Likewise, TA1490 (GML 66) – now on a 2008 Mercedes Benz.

Likewise, TA1605 (FFC 3) – now on a 2014 Porsche.

Likewise, TA1698 (JT 8014) – now on an AUDI.

Comment has been made at the large number of cars shown with a 1141cc engine. Whilst this is unlikely to be correct, I can only go on what is recorded by the DVLA. What follows are details in respect of chassis numbers and their corresponding registration number for UK cars known to the DVLA from where we finished up in the previous issue up to and including TA2000.

Chassis           Registration    Engine On the road?

1002                DKR 5             1141    SORN

1010                GL 4552          1141    SORN

1013                ZB 1570          1250    SORN

1025                CRL 913          1141    Untaxed

1028                CPX 136         1200    Taxed

1038                BAX 507          1141    N/T for road

1066                BAS 412          1350    Untaxed

1068                DXE 675         1292    Taxed

1086                CUJ 378          1292    Untaxed

1087                MG 5234         1150    Taxed

1103                DNC 336         1292    Taxed

1122                BSP 587          1250    Untaxed

1130                BTF 72            1296    Untaxed

1143                COY 663         1141    N/T for road

1144                FVU 867          1292    Taxed

1145                DNC 448         1141    Taxed

1151                YXG 351         1250    SORN

1157                JG 9052          1250    Taxed

1160                DNC 813         1250    Untaxed

1167                LXS 412          1250    Untaxed

1171                126 EWV         1292    Taxed

1174                CUR 512         1292    Taxed

1180                DKT 621          1141    N/T for road

1181                CLG 595         1250    Untaxed

1183                DKT 635          1292    Taxed

1202                FML 922          1141    Taxed

1206                BPW 140         1141    Untaxed

1208                ABT 140          1141    Untaxed

1214                XBV 271          1250    SORN

1222                BPW 400         1292    Taxed

1230                DXV 94           1292    Taxed

1237                DXW 444        1292    Untaxed

1240                BNX 655         1292    Taxed

1250                DWE 205        1250    Taxed

1269                ANT 629          1344    N/T for road

1295                FPG 803         1141    Untaxed

1302                DKA 824         1141    Taxed

1303                FPE 551          1141    Taxed

1304                ETN 874          1292    Taxed

1312                 BNX 814           1141     Taxed

1314                WG 6400         1141    SORN

1316                CDD 56           1292    N/T for road

1318                GPH 345         1298    Taxed

1323                CTT 603          1200    Taxed

1324                EDH 458         1292    Taxed

1335                DYK 343         1259    Taxed

1337                EVT 447          1292    Taxed

1339                DBP 85           1294    Untaxed

1341                BWY 723         1250    Taxed

1351                BV 8346          1141    SORN

1356                CYC 600         1275    Untaxed

1357                ABO 758         1290    Taxed

1359                DYU 51           1479    Taxed

1364                EKE 30            1141    Taxed

1367                EVT 727          1292    Untaxed

1368                DPP 647         1141    N/T for road

1375                MG 5476         1292    SORN

1378                FRE 159          1124    Taxed

1381                APY 144          1141    N/T for road

1391                DBP 228         1056    SORN

1395                DPP 663         1250    N/T for road

1405                VL 9680          1292    Untaxed

1408                CWM 538        1141    SORN

1410                DBP 566         1292    Taxed

1417                DOJ 106          1292    Untaxed

1423                AWS 818         1292    Taxed

1436                EZ 8050          1150    N/T for road

1440                EJO 505          1141    SORN

1441                CTB 407          1292    N/T for road

1443                AOW 658        1141    SORN

1448                DYO 23           1292    Taxed

1449                CTB 401          1500    SORN

1454                CTB 405          1250    Untaxed

1460                RC 5285          1250    Taxed

1484                DT 8937          1292    Taxed

1495                DYU 279         1479    Taxed

1507                FWL 897         1250    N/T for road

1508                EBH 15           1141    Taxed

1531                DYN 238         1141    N/T for road

1532                OFF 362          1292    Taxed

1554                EBH 222         1250    Taxed

1562                AMO 866         1141    N/T for road

1567                EUG 714         1141    N/T for road

1575                LSL 806          1292    Taxed

1581                EBH 151         1292    Taxed

1584                DRU 919         1292    Taxed

1586                FPG 356         1292    Taxed

1589                GMH 382        1250    Taxed

1592                DBP 683         1292    N/T for road

1608                BFS 777          1275    Taxed

1622                CTC 674         1141    N/T for road

1637                DCV 998         1292    SORN

1643                CTC 681         0          Taxed

1644                CTC 686         1350    Untaxed

1659                MG 6811         1250    N/T for road

1660                CAK 867         1250    Taxed

1674                FNU 343         1292    Taxed

1680                AJY 577          1250    Taxed

1682                DOL 171         1292    Taxed

1689                AWF 172         1141    Untaxed

1696                DWM 165        1141    Untaxed

1707                CDA 400         1292    Taxed

1708                EGY 901         1250    Untaxed

1711                DRR 450         1292    Taxed

1717                FNO 998         1292    Taxed

1728                FPL 510          1250    Untaxed

1731                BWD 215        1731    Taxed

1732                FPK 912          1141    Taxed

1734                LSU 981          1250    Taxed 

1737                CDG 314         1141    Taxed

1746                AUJ 202          1140    Taxed

1752                GMV 964         1292    Taxed

1773                GMX 420         1292    Taxed

1775                BGB 348         1141    Taxed

1789                EBH 926         1292    Taxed

1794                XSV 409          1250    Taxed

1796                VD 9513          1141    Taxed

1810                CNG 929         1292    Untaxed

1813                MG 5647         1250    Taxed

1818                DXJ 125          1290    Taxed

1819                GSK 703         1991    N/T for road

1831                MG 5707         1141    Taxed

1836                DXJ 175          1141    Taxed

1840                FPU 616          1292    Taxed

1845                LXS 914          1250    SORN

1847                APY 144          1141    N/T for road

1849                BWS 739         1250    SORN

1853                ARV 615         1292    Taxed

1854                GPA 631         1141    Untaxed

1857                EWF 124         1250    Taxed 

1858                DRU 971         1250    Untaxed

1860                RN 6391          1292    Untaxed

1861                LTR 573          1295    Taxed

1867                IW 6196          1250    SORN

1871                CER 480         1124    Taxed

1873                DTL 724          1250    Taxed

1881                ERA 433         1597    Untaxed

1883                JPA 814          1250    Taxed

1888                LFC 329          1141    Taxed

1890                DOX 4             1141    Taxed

1896                DKV 91           1124    Taxed

1903                DBY 984         1250    Taxed

1906                396 YUN         1292    SORN

1908                ERA 434         1295    Taxed

1914                CVE 922         1292    Taxed

1916                BGB 833         1141    Untaxed

1919                BTM 646         1292    Taxed

1920                CTE 502          1250    Taxed

1931                FYT 388          1292    Untaxed

1942                DRU 300         1250    Taxed

1946                FUG 117         1292    Taxed

1949                BWS 739         1250    SORN

1957                XG 6742          1141    N/T for road

1960                FGF 368          1141    SORN

1966                EAU 641         1292    N/T for road

1969                BCY 941         1344    Untaxed

1970                LXS 447          1292    Taxed

1971                JT 8451           1141    N/T for road

1974                EUF 879          1141    Untaxed

1977                WXG 584        1250    SORN

1985                FDH 992         2387    SORN

1989                CTE 505          1292    Taxed

1994                ARD 513         1250    Taxed

2000                ANR 803         1300    SORN

The foregoing completes the listing of all known chassis numbers with their corresponding registration number from Stewart Penfound’s database, which can be identified from the DVLA enquiry facility. This completes ‘Part 2’ of the exercise i.e.  chassis numbers TA1001 to 2000. The February TTT 2 will take in the remaining chassis numbers (TA2001 to TA3253).

Correction to ‘Part 1’   Due to the additional TA having been notified and added to the list (TA0646 – ACX 350 – Untaxed) the number and the percentages have been revised. The number of TAs listed in ‘Part 1’ was 157. It is now 158, of which 87 are Taxed (stays the same), 58 are Untaxed or Not Taxed for road use (plus 1), and13 are on SORN (stays the same). Percentage Taxed decreases slightly (was 55.4%, now 55.1%).

Analysis of ‘Part 2’ numbers   The corresponding numbers for ‘Part 2’ which can be extracted from the listings in this issue of TTT 2 are as follows:

Of the 164 TAs listed:

86 are Taxed (52.5% of the total)

55 are Untaxed or Not taxed for road use (33.5%)

23 are on SORN (14.0%)

Adding the above 86 to the 87 shown as ‘Taxed’ in ‘Part 1’ we now have a total of 173 cars on the road so far.

In Issue 68 (October) I said that predicting the end result for the number of TAs in the UK which are taxed and on the road is fraught with difficulty as there are a number of variables. I went on to say that I’d be disappointed with a total figure of less than 300. On the basis of current evidence it looks as though I may well be disappointed, but there is still plenty of data to analyse, so fingers crossed!

The listing of cars by chassis number and registration number NOT known to DVLA which follows, will help Stewart with his records if owners come forward to confirm that their car is still in existence. The records in respect of some of these cars date right back to the 1980s (and in some cases, even before) and there is the possibility that some may have been scrapped or exported.

TAs with chassis numbers in the 1001 to 2000 range NOT known to DVLA

Chassis number        Registration number

            TA1065                       CPX 137

            TA1079                       JT 6607

            TA1091                       TSU 533

            TA1117                       FA 6684

            TA1119                       BNM 274

            TA1132                       BTF 78

            TA1137                       BTF 73

            TA1138                       BTF 71

            TA1140                       BTF 74

            TA 1146                      CLV 697

            TA1158                       DKT 630

            TA1159                       DKT 629

            TA1161                       DKC 76

            TA1178                       DKT 632

            TA1182                       J 9375

            TA1184                       DKT 626

            TA1185                       DKT 636

            TA1186                       DKT 627

            TA1187                       DKT 628

            TA1223                       DOE 887

            TA1233                       AMO 341

            TA1252                       EUM 284

            TA1253                       BBM 993

TA1256                       AUN 550

TA1280                       DAF 999

TA1283                       AUK 123

TA1285                       HSU 131

TA1325                       EWS 586

TA1327                       FK 8127

TA1338                       CAD 982

TA1340                       DAR 124

TA1361                       FZ 1879

TA1400                       GJO 279

TA1402                       MG 5978

TA1437                       CTB 408

TA1447                       CDF 400

TA1458                       CTB 406

TA1462                       CTB 404

TA1476                       BNM 169

TA1478                       BWN 568

TA1486                       ABT 578

TA1487                       KS 7700

TA1489                       DPO 612

TA1491                       CTB 403

TA1509                       AMO 341

TA1525                       DTW 554

TA1537                       DLJ 4

TA1542                       AOW 581

TA1544                       DTT 721

TA1551                       EGH 421

TA1578                       CTC 671

TA1596                       CTC 673

TA1619                       DVR 697

TA1640                       CTC 683

TA1642                       CTC 684

TA1647                       CTC 685

TA1649                       CTC 678

TA1684                       BGB 322

TA1690                       FGY 184

TA1730                       CYD 816

TA1736                       EHA 887

TA1781                       KOT 400

TA1911                       PX 7296

TA1913                       WG 6772

TA1921                       CTE 501

TA1922                       CTE 503                                                         

            TA1930                       CTE 504

            TA1936                       CTE 508

            TA1968                       BBT 100

            TA1972                       SM 8528

            TA1976                       EXL 714

            TA1984                       ENO 243

            TA1992                       CTE 507

Please send any information regarding either of the lists to me (John James) jj(at)ttypes.org [please substitute @ for (at)]. I will pass any received on to Stewart Penfound.

The February 2022 issue will see the completion of this exercise as it will analyse the remaining chassis numbers (Chassis TA2001 to TA3253) and then will bring everything together to arrive at a final total of TAs on the road in the UK.

As I was preparing this article, I received a lengthy list of TA chassis numbers and their corresponding registration numbers from TA owner Roger Muir. Roger is the editor of the Octagon Car Club Bulletin.  As increasingly seems to be the case nowadays, time was not on my side to go through the list, but I will have done so by the time the February 2022 TTT 2 is published. On the basis of a quick scan through, it looks as there might be a few ‘new’ TAs not known to Stewart and the ‘T Register.

When the TA exercise is completed, I intend to have a go at the TF1500s.

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