The October issue set out the ‘ground rules’ for this exercise. It went on to analyse the first 750 TA chassis numbers (excluding chassis numbers belonging to non-UK cars) which are, according to the MGCC ‘T’ Register’s database, listed as being in the UK. This issue analyses the next 1000 chassis numbers.
There were a few errors in the October listings, which are probably best dealt with straight away.
Chassis number 0358 appeared in two listings but should only have appeared in one. This has been corrected.
Chassis number 0889 was incorrectly shown as 0809 (typing error by the editor).
Chassis number 0264 was incorrectly shown as NOT known to DVLA. The reason for this is that the Registrar was not advised of the sale of this car to The Netherlands, so it was still included as a UK car.
Chassis number 0646 (ACX 350) needs to be added to the list – not previously known about, but is now, thanks to Roger Muir, editor of the Octagon Bulletin.
Regarding the ‘Untaxed’ and ‘Not taxed for road use’ categories, Mike Inglehearn came to my rescue and sent me the following explanation, which saved me the task of writing to DVLA:
“I have just had a quick look at the latest TTT2, I was told by DVLA that the difference between “Untaxed” and “Not taxed for road use” is that “Untaxed” is for cars that have been on the road since SORN came into force (31st January 1998) but (for whom) after the tax last expired it was not renewed or put on SORN.
“Not Taxed for road use” is for vehicles that are on the DVLA system, but (for whom) the tax expired before SORN was introduced, so are not taxed and are not required to have a SORN declaration. In other words, both are untaxed, but whereas NTFRU is ok, “Untaxed” vehicles should either be taxed or have a SORN declaration.”
As a follow on from the ‘Lost & Found’ feature and the comments of mine regarding the loss of TF5400’s original registration number, this exercise has so far revealed the following:
TA0383 was originally registered DUB 45, but this is now on a 2017 Mercedes Benz.
Likewise, TA0969 (DLY 100) – now on a 2016 Land Rover.
Likewise, TA1490 (GML 66) – now on a 2008 Mercedes Benz.
Likewise, TA1605 (FFC 3) – now on a 2014 Porsche.
Likewise, TA1698 (JT 8014) – now on an AUDI.
Comment has been made at the large number of cars shown with a 1141cc engine. Whilst this is unlikely to be correct, I can only go on what is recorded by the DVLA. What follows are details in respect of chassis numbers and their corresponding registration number for UK cars known to the DVLA from where we finished up in the previous issue up to and including TA2000.
Chassis Registration Engine On the road?
1002 DKR 5 1141 SORN
1010 GL 4552 1141 SORN
1013 ZB 1570 1250 SORN
1025 CRL 913 1141 Untaxed
1028 CPX 136 1200 Taxed
1038 BAX 507 1141 N/T for road
1066 BAS 412 1350 Untaxed
1068 DXE 675 1292 Taxed
1086 CUJ 378 1292 Untaxed
1087 MG 5234 1150 Taxed
1103 DNC 336 1292 Taxed
1122 BSP 587 1250 Untaxed
1130 BTF 72 1296 Untaxed
1143 COY 663 1141 N/T for road
1144 FVU 867 1292 Taxed
1145 DNC 448 1141 Taxed
1151 YXG 351 1250 SORN
1157 JG 9052 1250 Taxed
1160 DNC 813 1250 Untaxed
1167 LXS 412 1250 Untaxed
1171 126 EWV 1292 Taxed
1174 CUR 512 1292 Taxed
1180 DKT 621 1141 N/T for road
1181 CLG 595 1250 Untaxed
1183 DKT 635 1292 Taxed
1202 FML 922 1141 Taxed
1206 BPW 140 1141 Untaxed
1208 ABT 140 1141 Untaxed
1214 XBV 271 1250 SORN
1222 BPW 400 1292 Taxed
1230 DXV 94 1292 Taxed
1237 DXW 444 1292 Untaxed
1240 BNX 655 1292 Taxed
1250 DWE 205 1250 Taxed
1269 ANT 629 1344 N/T for road
1295 FPG 803 1141 Untaxed
1302 DKA 824 1141 Taxed
1303 FPE 551 1141 Taxed
1304 ETN 874 1292 Taxed
1312 BNX 814 1141 Taxed
1314 WG 6400 1141 SORN
1316 CDD 56 1292 N/T for road
1318 GPH 345 1298 Taxed
1323 CTT 603 1200 Taxed
1324 EDH 458 1292 Taxed
1335 DYK 343 1259 Taxed
1337 EVT 447 1292 Taxed
1339 DBP 85 1294 Untaxed
1341 BWY 723 1250 Taxed
1351 BV 8346 1141 SORN
1356 CYC 600 1275 Untaxed
1357 ABO 758 1290 Taxed
1359 DYU 51 1479 Taxed
1364 EKE 30 1141 Taxed
1367 EVT 727 1292 Untaxed
1368 DPP 647 1141 N/T for road
1375 MG 5476 1292 SORN
1378 FRE 159 1124 Taxed
1381 APY 144 1141 N/T for road
1391 DBP 228 1056 SORN
1395 DPP 663 1250 N/T for road
1405 VL 9680 1292 Untaxed
1408 CWM 538 1141 SORN
1410 DBP 566 1292 Taxed
1417 DOJ 106 1292 Untaxed
1423 AWS 818 1292 Taxed
1436 EZ 8050 1150 N/T for road
1440 EJO 505 1141 SORN
1441 CTB 407 1292 N/T for road
1443 AOW 658 1141 SORN
1448 DYO 23 1292 Taxed
1449 CTB 401 1500 SORN
1454 CTB 405 1250 Untaxed
1460 RC 5285 1250 Taxed
1484 DT 8937 1292 Taxed
1495 DYU 279 1479 Taxed
1507 FWL 897 1250 N/T for road
1508 EBH 15 1141 Taxed
1531 DYN 238 1141 N/T for road
1532 OFF 362 1292 Taxed
1554 EBH 222 1250 Taxed
1562 AMO 866 1141 N/T for road
1567 EUG 714 1141 N/T for road
1575 LSL 806 1292 Taxed
1581 EBH 151 1292 Taxed
1584 DRU 919 1292 Taxed
1586 FPG 356 1292 Taxed
1589 GMH 382 1250 Taxed
1592 DBP 683 1292 N/T for road
1608 BFS 777 1275 Taxed
1622 CTC 674 1141 N/T for road
1637 DCV 998 1292 SORN
1643 CTC 681 0 Taxed
1644 CTC 686 1350 Untaxed
1659 MG 6811 1250 N/T for road
1660 CAK 867 1250 Taxed
1674 FNU 343 1292 Taxed
1680 AJY 577 1250 Taxed
1682 DOL 171 1292 Taxed
1689 AWF 172 1141 Untaxed
1696 DWM 165 1141 Untaxed
1707 CDA 400 1292 Taxed
1708 EGY 901 1250 Untaxed
1711 DRR 450 1292 Taxed
1717 FNO 998 1292 Taxed
1728 FPL 510 1250 Untaxed
1731 BWD 215 1731 Taxed
1732 FPK 912 1141 Taxed
1734 LSU 981 1250 Taxed
1737 CDG 314 1141 Taxed
1746 AUJ 202 1140 Taxed
1752 GMV 964 1292 Taxed
1773 GMX 420 1292 Taxed
1775 BGB 348 1141 Taxed
1789 EBH 926 1292 Taxed
1794 XSV 409 1250 Taxed
1796 VD 9513 1141 Taxed
1810 CNG 929 1292 Untaxed
1813 MG 5647 1250 Taxed
1818 DXJ 125 1290 Taxed
1819 GSK 703 1991 N/T for road
1831 MG 5707 1141 Taxed
1836 DXJ 175 1141 Taxed
1840 FPU 616 1292 Taxed
1845 LXS 914 1250 SORN
1847 APY 144 1141 N/T for road
1849 BWS 739 1250 SORN
1853 ARV 615 1292 Taxed
1854 GPA 631 1141 Untaxed
1857 EWF 124 1250 Taxed
1858 DRU 971 1250 Untaxed
1860 RN 6391 1292 Untaxed
1861 LTR 573 1295 Taxed
1867 IW 6196 1250 SORN
1871 CER 480 1124 Taxed
1873 DTL 724 1250 Taxed
1881 ERA 433 1597 Untaxed
1883 JPA 814 1250 Taxed
1888 LFC 329 1141 Taxed
1890 DOX 4 1141 Taxed
1896 DKV 91 1124 Taxed
1903 DBY 984 1250 Taxed
1906 396 YUN 1292 SORN
1908 ERA 434 1295 Taxed
1914 CVE 922 1292 Taxed
1916 BGB 833 1141 Untaxed
1919 BTM 646 1292 Taxed
1920 CTE 502 1250 Taxed
1931 FYT 388 1292 Untaxed
1942 DRU 300 1250 Taxed
1946 FUG 117 1292 Taxed
1949 BWS 739 1250 SORN
1957 XG 6742 1141 N/T for road
1960 FGF 368 1141 SORN
1966 EAU 641 1292 N/T for road
1969 BCY 941 1344 Untaxed
1970 LXS 447 1292 Taxed
1971 JT 8451 1141 N/T for road
1974 EUF 879 1141 Untaxed
1977 WXG 584 1250 SORN
1985 FDH 992 2387 SORN
1989 CTE 505 1292 Taxed
1994 ARD 513 1250 Taxed
2000 ANR 803 1300 SORN
The foregoing completes the listing of all known chassis numbers with their corresponding registration number from Stewart Penfound’s database, which can be identified from the DVLA enquiry facility. This completes ‘Part 2’ of the exercise i.e. chassis numbers TA1001 to 2000. The February TTT 2 will take in the remaining chassis numbers (TA2001 to TA3253).
Correction to ‘Part 1’ Due to the additional TA having been notified and added to the list (TA0646 – ACX 350 – Untaxed) the number and the percentages have been revised. The number of TAs listed in ‘Part 1’ was 157. It is now 158, of which 87 are Taxed (stays the same), 58 are Untaxed or Not Taxed for road use (plus 1), and13 are on SORN (stays the same). Percentage Taxed decreases slightly (was 55.4%, now 55.1%).
Analysis of ‘Part 2’ numbers The corresponding numbers for ‘Part 2’ which can be extracted from the listings in this issue of TTT 2 are as follows:
Of the 164 TAs listed:
86 are Taxed (52.5% of the total)
55 are Untaxed or Not taxed for road use (33.5%)
23 are on SORN (14.0%)
Adding the above 86 to the 87 shown as ‘Taxed’ in ‘Part 1’ we now have a total of 173 cars on the road so far.
In Issue 68 (October) I said that predicting the end result for the number of TAs in the UK which are taxed and on the road is fraught with difficulty as there are a number of variables. I went on to say that I’d be disappointed with a total figure of less than 300. On the basis of current evidence it looks as though I may well be disappointed, but there is still plenty of data to analyse, so fingers crossed!
The listing of cars by chassis number and registration number NOT known to DVLA which follows, will help Stewart with his records if owners come forward to confirm that their car is still in existence. The records in respect of some of these cars date right back to the 1980s (and in some cases, even before) and there is the possibility that some may have been scrapped or exported.
TAs with chassis numbers in the 1001 to 2000 range NOT known to DVLA
Chassis number Registration number
TA1065 CPX 137
TA1079 JT 6607
TA1091 TSU 533
TA1117 FA 6684
TA1119 BNM 274
TA1132 BTF 78
TA1137 BTF 73
TA1138 BTF 71
TA1140 BTF 74
TA 1146 CLV 697
TA1158 DKT 630
TA1159 DKT 629
TA1161 DKC 76
TA1178 DKT 632
TA1182 J 9375
TA1184 DKT 626
TA1185 DKT 636
TA1186 DKT 627
TA1187 DKT 628
TA1223 DOE 887
TA1233 AMO 341
TA1252 EUM 284
TA1253 BBM 993
TA1256 AUN 550
TA1280 DAF 999
TA1283 AUK 123
TA1285 HSU 131
TA1325 EWS 586
TA1327 FK 8127
TA1338 CAD 982
TA1340 DAR 124
TA1361 FZ 1879
TA1400 GJO 279
TA1402 MG 5978
TA1437 CTB 408
TA1447 CDF 400
TA1458 CTB 406
TA1462 CTB 404
TA1476 BNM 169
TA1478 BWN 568
TA1486 ABT 578
TA1487 KS 7700
TA1489 DPO 612
TA1491 CTB 403
TA1509 AMO 341
TA1525 DTW 554
TA1537 DLJ 4
TA1542 AOW 581
TA1544 DTT 721
TA1551 EGH 421
TA1578 CTC 671
TA1596 CTC 673
TA1619 DVR 697
TA1640 CTC 683
TA1642 CTC 684
TA1647 CTC 685
TA1649 CTC 678
TA1684 BGB 322
TA1690 FGY 184
TA1730 CYD 816
TA1736 EHA 887
TA1781 KOT 400
TA1911 PX 7296
TA1913 WG 6772
TA1921 CTE 501
TA1922 CTE 503
TA1930 CTE 504
TA1936 CTE 508
TA1968 BBT 100
TA1972 SM 8528
TA1976 EXL 714
TA1984 ENO 243
TA1992 CTE 507
Please send any information regarding either of the lists to me (John James) jj(at)ttypes.org [please substitute @ for (at)]. I will pass any received on to Stewart Penfound.
The February 2022 issue will see the completion of this exercise as it will analyse the remaining chassis numbers (Chassis TA2001 to TA3253) and then will bring everything together to arrive at a final total of TAs on the road in the UK.
As I was preparing this article, I received a lengthy list of TA chassis numbers and their corresponding registration numbers from TA owner Roger Muir. Roger is the editor of the Octagon Car Club Bulletin. As increasingly seems to be the case nowadays, time was not on my side to go through the list, but I will have done so by the time the February 2022 TTT 2 is published. On the basis of a quick scan through, it looks as there might be a few ‘new’ TAs not known to Stewart and the ‘T Register.
When the TA exercise is completed, I intend to have a go at the TF1500s.
Chassis #3181 was just restored in Texas. Soon to be listed on the Bring a Trailer Auction site. If you would like to see pictures send me a link I can send them to.